My question over here: Integrating Earth into interstellar empire

Despite getting a decent amount of upvotes and answers it was closed as being too story-based. Earlier sphennings indicated that it seems to story-based for him (and i thank him for stating his reasons for VTC) and I have since made multiple attempts to reword the question. Still, it was closed, so now I'm asking for suggestions to make it better.

As per this link: Why is my question "Too Story Based" and how do I get it opened?

"questions must focus on what is possible or likely to develop"

which is exactly the intent of my question, which is why believe it to be on topic, though probably in need of wording it better.

The way I see it I give:

  • the starting point - 2020s Earth, aliens arrive, Earth is in their territory - a set of restrictions
  • restrictions - demands that are not up for negotiations
  • end point - Earth peacefully integrated into alien empire

My question is about how to possibly or likely get from starting point to the end point with the restrictions.

Any suggestions on how to fix it are appreciated.


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Chaos control

The closure reason likely comes from chaos that happen during a first contact and establishing a relationship between humanity and aliens. Indeed, the smallest change in starting conditions can vastly change the outcome. These conditions can be as little as the current leader's ideal or in which order aliens met them (meeting the USA's president today before Russia's or vice-versa would cause some issues, for instance). It's not taking into account a single leader can take charge of extraterrestrial relationships if countries joined together after this world-disruptive event, a la United Nations but not like the United Nations (that's a possibility).

Besides, most stories involving a first contact happens to have very wild reactions from those pesky humans, going from intergalactic federation to all-out war passing by some weird linguistic shenanigans, and all are likeable (to the viewer at least) and believable in their context. This makes the task of finding "a more likely" answer much harder to make, since most choices are already made believable.

What next?

I'm not sure I would have it closed, first because I'm more fond of reopening topics now. However, I'm not inclined to reopen as it is now either because of the aforementionned chaos above, which makes the strategic and probabilistic a.k.a "most likely" approach quite harduous to do.

I cannot guarantee its reopening, it's a tough one. The classic way of going around this is to think of an approach, and ask if this one would reasonably work given the context (reality-check) instead on how you could make it work. You have to do some work by yourself, but you can then cross ideas that didn't go out as planned and use and overuse the ones that went smoothly like a smoothie.

Another way... Countries have very different culture and approaches to militarization and things that looks like colonialization (especially in old colonies vs old colonial empires). So one thing that might help is to focus on a country or two at most, telling the others "already agreed". It'll reduce the variables, and therefore the chaos triggered by those. To sum up this idea, dust off one of them to see where you roughly need to go for the others.

In any case, if you make a new question around the same topic, I'd advise to go in the sandbox before posting on the main site. It'll allows some people to review it before and reduces the risk of being closed. Like I said it's a tough one and I believe some help can be appreciated.

Alternatively, you can fully embrace it's too situational to ask what is more likely and think about what you wish to tell and... just make the events go that way. After all, if others managed to tell such a wide variety of alien encounters and colonization attempts, then so can you :)!

  • $\begingroup$ I must admit I have no idea what you mean when talking about chaos regarding first contact. I didnt really considered the first contact mattered beyond the fact that it happened peacefully. $\endgroup$
    – JANXOL
    Commented Mar 31, 2022 at 16:01
  • $\begingroup$ And it seems to me like that would be "needs details" rather than story-based if it would be so dependent on specifics of first contact. $\endgroup$
    – JANXOL
    Commented Mar 31, 2022 at 16:09
  • $\begingroup$ @JANXOL By chaos, it's the way that people react to such extraordinary event. If your aliens went in with all the light shows and they make "miracles" like curing the sick, people are much more likely to treat them very well, even if they use the land resources behind. Bonus if you add an halo and some dove or white swan wings to add into this religion. It's quite a strong example to show that "peaceful" isn't enough, but[...] $\endgroup$ Commented Mar 31, 2022 at 16:17
  • $\begingroup$ [...] a thing as simple as "we landed in North Korea first, but trust us we didn't know it was a dictatorship!" can lead to tensions among countries and therefore against aliens, yet still being in overall "peaceful". It's a very big string of events that I fear you cannot detail inside a single question. $\endgroup$ Commented Mar 31, 2022 at 16:17

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