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A July 2022 renovation of the tag and others has changed the context of this question. It is now obsolete. Please see the following question and the link under "Conclusion." If we can't burn the "reality check" tag, can we rename it?


I don't know much about the tags or rules in Meta, since I usually just briefly lurk, so I'd appreciate it if someone can fix the tags to be more appropriate and I apologize if I've broken any rules here.

I want to ask what really supposed to mean? recently I thought reality check more meant such a given concept is possible or plausible or working, but not necessarily mean checking reality or can be real, am I misunderstanding the meaning of this tag? My English is not that good so I may have misunderstood the obvious meaning here.

Is there any better tag for asking whether a concept is possible or plausible?

In the past I kind of hesitated to use this tag because I think can cover it already, but after some of my questions get demands to have even though I have put , I start to put it into one of my question but one of the deleted comment and answerer seems to assume I was asking about real bird counterpart or example which is not necessary nor it must be a bird in the context of my question and I don't know should I change the tag or not which probably ruin the answer which is frowned upon here.

In the past, I thought it was mean about literally checking reality or can be real, but after my past encounter and some lurking around other questions sometimes people demand reality check for the question even though the description or the context seems out of reality or fiction stuff but still in science base realm.

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Internal consistency

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Can your suspension of disbelief survive this

It means real science can be suspended in the face of a bending of the rules within the asker's universe. Whether it's allowing for FTL travel or artificial gravity or any other discarding of a fundamental law, what you might expect is not necessarily true, but what has been declared to be must be consistent with itself.

As far as the answers are concerned, normal science can apply to anything not declared as changed, anything that's too far outside science can be declared as perhaps going too far.

, and have traditionally been considered as 3 points on a scale of which you pick one based on how tightly you want to stick to the rules as we know them to be.

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  • $\begingroup$ so from what i get it mean plausibly check right? even if the question is mean for magic it still compatible? or only exclusive to science? $\endgroup$
    – Li Jun
    Oct 24, 2019 at 10:14
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    $\begingroup$ @LiJun, it's fine with me but some say it's not compatible with magic, better to keep it on the science path, but it is compatible with handwavium and unobtanium. $\endgroup$
    – Separatrix
    Oct 24, 2019 at 10:18
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    $\begingroup$ @Separatrix I think it just needs a bit tighter explanation of how magic works. For example "in my world, magic cannot create flames but can heat water. I'd like my mages to be able to produce tea through this - is it plausible?" should be fine - clear restrictions and abilities of magic and a clear and unambiguous result that is linked to the rules laid out. But, say, something like "In my world, mages have to sing their spells. I'd like my mages to be able to produce tea through this - is it plausible?" is not fit for a reality check. $\endgroup$
    – VLAZ
    Oct 25, 2019 at 7:02
  • $\begingroup$ "Internal consistency" is interesting: actually, if "internal" means that the world given the question should be included, then we have a good definition. I think I’ll write an answer about it ^^ $\endgroup$ Nov 23, 2021 at 12:27
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Usually, as it has been said, this tag is used to test worlds which includes magic, monsters or something unusual in nature -that means also unusual in our world. So, a strict "reality check" is not possible, because:

  • since reality doesn’t include magic, monsters or whatever, no one can predict what reality would be with it,
  • even if it did, what we know about reality is never reality itself.

So, "reality-check" means more probably that you check that (the world) + (what you add in it, ie magic, monsters and so on) is coherent with the knowledge we have of our world.

Edit: a little bit more of explanation about it. This doesn’t mean that what you add (magic,…) is coherent with the knowledge about our world, but that a sum of all of that is coherent. Here is an example: if you imagine a world where magic can input free energy in matter, I’m ok to say it is not something known in our world, but the whole (magic of free energy + our world) is coherent because our knowledge can integrate this magic as if it were just something new. Actually, it is exactly the same with a new scientific theory: you can first check if this new theory is compatible with what is already known. We didn’t know that Earth is round before we could check it. And it is not incompatible with the knowledge "locally, the world is almost flat" (since locally, a ball is almost flat). So, this is what can be checked in reality check, I guess. Furthermore, as I said, you can’t check if an element is coherent with "a world", because you don’t know exactly what "a world" is. What you know is not "a world" or even "our world", but it is a set of theories about this world. So you can add theories about a new element in your set of knowledge about our world, and check if the sum is coherent. End of edit

But this implies two things:

  • the thing you add in the world (magic, monsters…) should be described with enough properties to test if these properties are coherent considering what we know about the world,
  • the state of knowledge itself must be specified, in the question or in the answer.

This last point is really important: since we don’t know everything about our world, it is important to write down what we know about it. For example, answers about FTL travel will be fondamentaly different in a relativity, Newtonian, or even more ancient context. Even historical questions could have different answers if you have the knowledge of the winner or of the loser of the war (maybe less true nowadays, but not that much). It can be really interesting if your world is an ancient one: for example, if you are in the 14th century, you car more easily include FTL travel than in ours, since relativity was not part of the common knowledge at that time (even if it’s part of the reader’s one, of course). So I’m pretty convinced in the fact that it is really important to explain the context and the hypotheses taken into account in the answer of a "reality-check" question.

To conclude, I would define "reality-check" as "Check if a world containing some more hypothesis is still compatible with a context of knowledge about our world, which must be specified in the question or in the answer."

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  • $\begingroup$ "So, "reality-check" means more probably that you check that (the world) + (what you add in it, ie magic, monsters and so on) is coherent with the knowledge we have of our world." Not exactly. Said this way, any magic+reality-check question would be answered as "no, this magic thing doesn't match what's known in our world." :). It's more about how coherent the tested element is relative to our world but most importantly relative to the asker's world. $\endgroup$
    – Tortliena
    Nov 23, 2021 at 13:10
  • $\begingroup$ @Tortliena, maybe I didn’t express it the right way, but it’s not what I mean. This doesn’t mean that what you add (magic,…) is coherent with the knowledge about our world, but that a sum of all of that is coherent, and then you can answer "yes". Here is an example: if you imagine a world where magic can input free energy in matter, I’m ok to say it is not something known in our world, but the whole (magic of free energy + our world) is coherent because our knowledge can integrate this magic as if it were just something new. $\endgroup$ Nov 24, 2021 at 12:37
  • $\begingroup$ Actually, it is exactly the same with a new scientific theory: you can first check if this new theory is compatible with what is already known. We didn’t know that Earth is round before we could check it. And it is not incompatible with the knowledge "locally, the world is almost flat" (since locally, a ball is almost flat). So, this is what can be checked in reality check, I guess. $\endgroup$ Nov 24, 2021 at 12:39
  • $\begingroup$ Furthermore, as I said, you can’t check if an element is coherent with "a world", because you don’t know exactly what "a world" is. What you know is not "a world" or even "our world", but it is a set of theories about this world. So you can add theories about a new element in your set of knowledge about our world, and check if the sum is coherent. I hope this clarifies my answe, thanks for your comment @Tortliena :-) $\endgroup$ Nov 24, 2021 at 12:42
  • $\begingroup$ So we agree <(^^)>. Just edit the part to tell "is coherent with our world+asker's world theory, as it stands it's misleading towards "only our world" regarding the meaning you intended. $\endgroup$
    – Tortliena
    Nov 24, 2021 at 15:59
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    $\begingroup$ You’re right, I’ll do this, thank you :-) $\endgroup$ Nov 26, 2021 at 8:07

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