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Jan 7, 2021 at 1:07 comment added user2352714 @JBH What about psychological torture? There's no physical pain but few would argue it isn't torture of some kind.
Dec 28, 2020 at 20:33 comment added JBH I've updated the post to include your observations. Thanks! Also, while you're at it, could you push the comment tree into chat? Thanks again!
Dec 26, 2020 at 15:13 comment added JBH @user2352714 You're getting it without realizing it. "How can I X without?" means you've established a limitation or condition that controls the gratuity of the gore. "How can I do this and achieve X" is without limit and allows gratuity. The discussion is about how to define those limits in as objective a way as possible (because L.Dutch and Elemtilas are right, there may be no perfectly objective way to draw the line).
Dec 26, 2020 at 9:22 comment added user2352714 @JBH I could easily see someone asking a medical question with the intent "can I do this ''without'' causing harm to the patient". But then that could rapidly be turned around into a torture technique.
Dec 25, 2020 at 6:32 comment added JBH Yeah, I was having trouble defining a line that's better than all-or-nothing. However, I perceive a difference between, "Will this procedure cause pain" and "will this procedure cause enough pain." I suspect it's the latter we're trying to avoid - the tendency to excess or gratuity. How would you explain such a difference, or do you believe the line should be either all or nothing?
Dec 25, 2020 at 6:05 history answered L.DutchMod CC BY-SA 4.0